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Happy 30th, McBec

Friday 2 November 2007, 7:11 am

The Editor

Categories: GrodsNews

Tags: birthday, McBec, trout

Mrs The Editor turns 30 today and a bunch of us are headed up to some rural retreat for the weekend. When I say rural retreat, what I mean is luxury cottage conveniently located next to a day spa. So the girls will spend their time being exfoliated and massaged while the boys spend their time drinking beer and playing cards. Apparently there’s a trout farm on the premises from which you can catch your own trout and have the staff prepare and cook it. Lucky I’m a vegetarian. Not to mention the fact that the on-site restaurant doesn’t do “special needs” meals like vegetarian.

So happy 30th, McBec. May you catch a very large trout.

66 Comments

Krypto (Friday 2 November 2007, 8:24 am) #

happy birthday Mrs. Ed. it’s all downhill from here.
Krypto (Friday 2 November 2007, 8:27 am) #

um, just wondering…is it a “fine Scottish restaurant”?
If it is McChunder’s you can make the burgers authenticly Scottish by throwing one in with the fries for a while.
rdb (Friday 2 November 2007, 12:45 pm) #

Hey Ed
You might be able to get them to make mashed spuds with BBQ sauce.

P.S. Happy Birthday to your good Lady form us both. Hope Napoleon bought her a nice gift.
rdb (Friday 2 November 2007, 12:46 pm) #

From
John Surname (Friday 2 November 2007, 3:50 pm) #

So that’s who was telling me about trout farming. McBec, check your inbox!
Bruce (Friday 2 November 2007, 4:29 pm) #

Happy B-Day.
Bridgit Gread (Friday 2 November 2007, 4:47 pm) #

Many happy returns to Mrs The Ed. and long may her rod conquer the unsuspecting trout while you macho guys flounce around the, ahem, ‘day spa’.

Coming soon from a certain blogger: “Mrs The Ed. was born on 2/11/77, anyone could just steal her identity…”
Iain Hall (Friday 2 November 2007, 7:16 pm) #

Yawn
Bridgit you are so tiresome.
Bruce (Friday 2 November 2007, 7:18 pm) #

So is your projection Iain.
The Happy Revolutionary (Friday 2 November 2007, 7:44 pm) #

I’m surprised you’ve got time to comment here, Hall, given that you’ve spent the last hour copying slabs of my text for your new flamer site.
Given that you’ve spent a similarly obsessive amount of time on a bunch of other sites, you’ve done well to keep up (inane) appearances here.
Bridgit Gread (Friday 2 November 2007, 9:01 pm) #

Iain, if the trout rise to the bait as fast as you, McBec is in for a bonza weekend.
Magic Bellybutton (Friday 2 November 2007, 10:01 pm) #

Happy Birthday Mrs TE. You are a very funny woman.
TBSAKA Iain Hall (Friday 2 November 2007, 10:11 pm) #

My actual name is Trout Lips.
Mikey (Friday 2 November 2007, 11:07 pm) #

Yay for birthdays! Yay for Scorpios!

We’re the best baby.
Bruce (Friday 2 November 2007, 11:46 pm) #

I’m surprised you’ve got time to comment here, Hall, given that you’ve spent the last hour copying slabs of my text for your new flamer site.
Given that you’ve spent a similarly obsessive amount of time on a bunch of other sites, you’ve done well to keep up (inane) appearances here.

Having grown up with a father that was involved with bikers* (the non-Japanese bikes, crop-o-weed, shoot at anything that moves in the paddock variety), I never saw Iain as fitting the mold. Maybe I’m wrong.

Methamphetamines would go a long way in explaining the apparent amount of energy he’s been able to expend of late. Maybe he has some contact.

* Actually, one of them was an awesome woodworker and made this 5-foot high snake on a branch carving that unfortunately we couldn’t find amongst his belongings after he died.
The Happy Revolutionary (Friday 2 November 2007, 11:50 pm) #

I don’t know, Bruce.
It’s hard to imagine Iain fitting neatly into any social group. His delusions of being a ‘respected conservative commentator’ seem out of keeping with a biker’s Weltanschauung.
But I could be wrong.

My guess though would be something along the lines of what the DSM calls a ‘personality disorder’…One of the ‘Cluster B - Erratic/Dramatic’ kind.
Bruce (Saturday 3 November 2007, 1:56 am) #

There’s that DSM again.
Iain Hall (Saturday 3 November 2007, 6:07 am) #

I don’t know why you lot are so upset that I should gather so much of your efforts to attack and demonise me into one place, It does show how obsessively vengeful you all are though.
Bruce
Sorry to disappoint you but the only stimulant used was some coffee and tea (Maccona and Twinings respectively for those who just have to know). Thanks for the write up by the way, that has gone “straight to the poolroom”.
Bridgit
Yet to do a page on you but rest assured that it will happen, this little side project has been in planning for a while so maybe not as fast to rise to the bait, as you seem to think.
Hap
If you object to my use of your text the answer is simple, see a lawyer son.
Bridgit Gread (Saturday 3 November 2007, 10:39 am) #

For pete’s sake, Iain, why don’t you do what normal people do and get a job or a hobby, instead of creating hate/vengeance sites?

*Shakes head*
John Surname (Saturday 3 November 2007, 10:52 am) #

His new site has made my day.
Bruce (Saturday 3 November 2007, 1:04 pm) #

I’m just surprised that Iain hasn’t worked out just how wrong creating an entire blog dedicated to documenting “what people say about Moi” and having files on people to boot. This is a new level of disturbed we are seeing from Iain.
Agent Starling (Saturday 3 November 2007, 1:57 pm) #

Hey Iain. Put “Agent Starling is investigating my psychopathic behavior regarding putting people in tree shredding machines” on your secret squirrel blog. That might bring me down a peg or two and make you look good — which is you are trying to do isn’t it? (Against all odds)
Iain Hall (Saturday 3 November 2007, 1:57 pm) #

Bruce
Until I began collecting it I did not realise how many column inches of stuff you lot have written about me. As far as I can work out it far exceeds all of my personal output by several orders of magnitude.
Bridgit
It is not a hate or a vengeance site at all, it is far more a documentary site, recording the efforts of all of those who have decided to have a go at me. And as for hobbies I do have several and I get shtick about those as well. But don’t fret, the notable omission of your own trolling efforts from the page will be rectified soon.
Bruce (Saturday 3 November 2007, 2:35 pm) #

As far as I can work out it far exceeds all of my personal output by several orders of magnitude.

Well, I don’t believe this for a minute, but you are relatively safe making this claim because you won’t have anything to compare your “documentation” to. It’s not like any of us have as much time as you to document all the nasty stuff you’ve written about other bloggers. Not by several orders of magnitude.

Incidentally Iain, if you want to seem more credible, I’d cut back on the padding and exaggeration instead of copying and pasting everything with your name in it and claiming that it’s an attack. You’ll also find you have a lot less to publish (probably also by several orders of magnitude).

Well I’m off to enjoy the rest of my weekend. Have fun copying and pasting Iain.
Bruce (Saturday 3 November 2007, 2:37 pm) #

Oh, and you could have said happy birthday. Nice of you to try and make this thread, of all of them, about you.
Krypto (Saturday 3 November 2007, 3:28 pm) #

hysterical, ian can’t even run a flame site honestly, has to hide behind the title “documentary”.
Little tip ian, if you are going to flout the moral high ground, make sure you actually have it.
Krypto (Saturday 3 November 2007, 3:33 pm) #

isn’t a “documentary” supposed to be for public scrutiny? You could hardly call a pokey little internet backwater accesible only to a few net roaches ian is chummy with a “documentary” now could you?
Iain Hall (Saturday 3 November 2007, 6:22 pm) #

Krypto
Anyone can access “Troll tails and true” why even you can even leave a comment in my guest book page. Strangely none of you have tried that yet.
And by the way one claims moral high ground it strikes me that your use of the word “flout” is rather silly in this case.
Bruce
Mostly apart from a short introduction I offer no commentary on the stuff at all, Neither do I claim that it is all attacking me. I wanted to make a very clear point about the sheer volume of stuff that you and your pals have generated over the last two years, selective quoting would not do that, there is no problem with bandwidth as it is a free WP blog after all.
Cheers
John Surname (Saturday 3 November 2007, 6:42 pm) #

How about we not start a petty flame war in a birthday thread?
Krypto (Saturday 3 November 2007, 11:26 pm) #

perhaps if you tried being less of a semen stain ian you would attract less deleterious comments.
I use the term flout quite correctly in this instance as you make a showy demonstration of adopting the moral highground despite the fact you have no legitimate entitlement to do so.
Apparently you have good form in locking sites ian so it is not unreasonable to expect you might do the same in this instance, either now or in the future.
I wonder how many hits your sites would have were it not for people you had antagonised visiting to see what shite you had written about them, not many I’ll wager.
Krypto (Saturday 3 November 2007, 11:28 pm) #

valid point John, I’ll desist (sorry I posted BEFORE I read your request)
Krypto (Saturday 3 November 2007, 11:32 pm) #

ian, I’d like to invite you to continue this “discussion” at the purpose built Dante’s Inferno, audience welcome.
Iain Hall (Sunday 4 November 2007, 6:39 am) #

Krypto
As long as you play the scumbag and publish mny address and phone number there I will never comment at your blog.
Bruce (Sunday 4 November 2007, 11:53 am) #

Iain… It’s not hard.

H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y.
Krypto (Sunday 4 November 2007, 12:57 pm) #

Happy Birthday Mrs Ed, reprinting of publicly available information makes me a “scumbag” huh?
well we had all better stop reading the news, public forums, watching TV or any other form of public information and we had certainly better not repeat any of what we see or hear. ian has spoken.
Bridgit Gread (Sunday 4 November 2007, 1:00 pm) #

It’s my fault for enticing the Internet leech into a birthday thread and for that I humbly apologise, not that Mrs Ed will care; she’s probably hungover on grilled trout and red wine.
Krypto (Sunday 4 November 2007, 1:22 pm) #

um, you were talking about ian weren’t you bridg?
ha ha ha
Goobermetrics (Sunday 4 November 2007, 3:37 pm) #

I think from now on you could all generate your comments with a well written macro/script.

blah blah blah ….. Ian; Hall.

Prodos …. blah blah blah.

Zing! Think of the time you will save!
Krypto (Sunday 4 November 2007, 3:52 pm) #

and the fun we would miss
Iain Hall (Sunday 4 November 2007, 5:40 pm) #

Bruce
As Bridgit says it was she who enticed me into commenting here and as I have had absolutely nothing to do with “McBec” why should I offer an empty salutation? The last time I posted birthday greetings to some one here I got nothing but indignation for doing so.
Bridgit
So bitter and twisted with no reason to be so at all. What is it with you? Nearly two years ago you caught me out with your glib lies in your fraud and I was gracious enough to accept that you won that round. You have not however succeeded in humbling me, nor will you ever do so. Learn to live with it and move on.
Oh by the way do you still stand by this statement?

I know that Iain has, to some extent, asked for it … and I’m doubly sure that if Mr Lefty’s home address was somewhere on the Web then Iain himself would have plastered it all about the place. But those things do not make it right, simply because there are other non-blogging people involved.

Take his address and phone number offline, as well as references to his family, it’s the right thing to do.
Bridgit Gread

Or are we going to see that you have the morality of a sewer rat?
I expect some convoluted rationale to explain why what you said then no longer applies…

Well I did have Jeremy’s address for a very long time and it was never once posted anywhere on the net by me now was it?
Krypto (Sunday 4 November 2007, 8:54 pm) #

fool, when you go “unlisted” I’ll pull the link, until then it is publicly available information accessable to anyone who cares to browse the online white pages.
Maybe the real problem here is embarrasment, you don’t want to explain to mrs fool what you have been getting up to while she toddles off to work to keep you.
Bridgit Gread (Sunday 4 November 2007, 10:48 pm) #

Iain;41;Hall,

One word:

Yaaaaaaaaaaaawwwnn.
Iain Hall (Monday 5 November 2007, 6:23 am) #

Typical Greado cop out when confronted with a question about your own personal morality.
Exactly what I expected though from someone who not only lies but who also boasts about those lies as if they are a badge of honour.
Bruce (Monday 5 November 2007, 8:44 am) #

Iain,

Bridget has no obligation to read and condemn what Krypto publishes. If you want to comdemn people on the blogosphere for not condemning him/she/it, why don’t you start with the other 110 million blogs that technorati track, most of which don’t condemn him either and then get back to us. 110 million blogs giving tacit support to krypto!

At least you could do that until you’ve learned how to say happy birthday on a birthday thread (and if you aren’t going to say it, then post your rubbish somewhere else more appropriate).
Bridgit Gread (Monday 5 November 2007, 10:15 am) #

Go work on your sad little everyone-picks-on-me blog, Iain, I’m not interested.
Iain Hall (Monday 5 November 2007, 2:10 pm) #

Bruce
Did I name names in my previous comment? Err NO But the fact that Bridgit refuses to back her own statement of principle from not so long ago says heaps about how “morally flexible” you leftists so often are.
The Happy Revolutionary (Monday 5 November 2007, 2:56 pm) #

Err NO But the fact that Bridgit refuses to back her own statement of principle from not so long ago says heaps about how “morally flexible” you leftists so often are.

Hall, you consistently drag down the level of discourse on every thread you invade.

Might I add, it’s hilarious that you accuse others of ‘moral flexibility’ when your reason for getting out of bed of a morning seems to be the thrill of stalking and ‘outing’ anonymous bloggers.

Pathetic.
Krypto (Monday 5 November 2007, 3:38 pm) #

For pitty’s sake, it’s Moccona, MOCCONA it’s written right there in front of you.
This is why “conjigal union of siblings” needs to be stamped out.
Krypto (Monday 5 November 2007, 3:42 pm) #

Sorry to disappoint you but the only stimulant used was some coffee and tea (Maccona and Twinings respectively for those who just have to know).
Perhaps you should stick to “kook-a cola”
Bruce (Monday 5 November 2007, 8:14 pm) #

Err NO But the fact that Bridgit refuses to back her own statement of principle from not so long ago says heaps about how “morally flexible” you leftists so often are.

Just because she refuses to explicitly back her statement at your demand, doesn’t mean that she doesn’t back it. Your allegation is a “proof from a negative” - a logical fallacy.

To simplify things, and sadly you obviously need this simplified, it is safe to say Bridgit condemns murder. There are many murders a day world wide, are you expecting Bridget to explicitly condemn them on a daily basis? What you expect from her is just like saying that she is flexible when it comes to murder because she condemns some and won’t explicitly do so with others.

I’d reasonably expect a primary school child to understand this logic and not jump to the erroneous type of allegation you make, so don’t expect people to be so charitable when your trite allegations are based on flawed reasoning like this.

In any case, you have demanded Bridgit condemn Krypto and you are entitled to demand precisely nothing of her, or anyone else here (other than Krypto/Fang/etc who have actually, not imaginarily, wronged you - you can demand they stop.) The situation that gives rise to all this nastiness directed at you is entirely generated by yourself. If you hadn’t stalked Jeremy, tried inciting flame wars yourself and so on, none of this would be happening because your actual antagonists feed off of this crap.

It’s your dung pile Iain, you don’t get to ask anyone else to help you clean it up. The only reason that I don’t un-ban the likes of Fang at my blog is because their war with you is likely to disrupt discussion, I don’t do it to protect you Iain, not anymore. I just don’t like your flies.

And on that note, if you aren’t going to stop sooking about Krypto to people who have no business saving your skin, in the process disrupting a thread that isn’t supposed to be focused on you, could you please take your circus of egocentricity somewhere else? I’m sure AWH would be far more sympathetic.

People here want to have discussions with other sensible people about amusing or sensible things. Not waste time being side-tracked by a malicious, self-centered e-gatecrasher who never made it past Erikson’s adolescent phase.
Krypto (Monday 5 November 2007, 9:29 pm) #

Exactly what is there here to condemn? posting a link to publicly available information source? not a crime.
I mean really, if in individual like ian; hall is going to spend his every waking hour going out of his way to make enemies, then not make the slightest, vaguest attempt to conceal his identity or wherabouts.
Please, spare us your feigned indignance hall.
That’s not gall you can taste, it’s your own medicine.
Jimmy Scullin (Monday 5 November 2007, 11:55 pm) #

Sounds like old Bruce has a bee in his bonnet. C’mon dude, we should be all bowing to Iain on such an auspicious occasion. The wack-job has outdone even himself with his latest appallingly lame but unintentionally hilarious e-presentation.

I have it on good authority that the fly known as Fang has gone into hiding since Iain reposted Fang’s comments and then highlighted the spelling ‘errors’ with an American spell check! Who would have thought ‘organisation’ was spelt with an ’s’?

As this person now makes a big fuss about my spelling mistakes I have highlighted his errors in red and look out for the quotes in bold text for some of the “highlights” of his opinions.

Also, Iain unmasked ‘Fang’ as being about a dozen people that he isn’t thus proving that Iain’s detective work is on even par with his attempts to highlight spelling mistakes. Not even Larry David during Curb Your Enthusiasm could have come up such a farcical effort. Hall with his claws so firmly locked into the barrow of shit he’s pushing, has again shown himself by way of his own hand, to be an absolute moron of mammoth proportions.

I suggest Iain heeds Mark Twain’s advice; “It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.”

—
Oh and Iain how could Fang:

show a rather worrying level of religious bigotry that the author now tries to distance himself from in a rather futile attempt to curry favour with my enemies

If he:

…was never that much chop as a blogger himself and now in retrospect it seems to me that his entire “Before it happens” blog existed for only one purpose and that was to entrap me into publishing Jeremy’s address after he gave it to me without any prompting whatsoever?

“Dare I say it, but [Iain] appears to be deeply fascinated with [himself], although I’m not sure that it’s an entirely healthy interest, so feverish and unresolved is [his] attention. This is not a nice thought, but sometimes [Iain’s] fixation reminds me of a morbid and steamy schoolboy crush. The signs of obsession, jealousy and fetishism are all there in his blogs about [himself].”

Put that one on your quote page brainiac. Just ask for Leuning’s permission first or are you too stupid to reali(s)e that the joke/quote is on you? You did read the article from whence it came didn’t you? Or like the ‘Cooper’ incident has your ego blocked the truth? Maybe you should use this quote instead:

“He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don’t let that fool you. He really is an idiot.” Groucho Marx

Your troll blog of incompetence is an inspiration to botched lobotomy patients everywhere and amounts to nothing more than the demented racket of a drugged lunatic banging loudly on kitchen pots and pans.

Get a real job before your brain starts to rot from all that festering stagnation and cognitive dysfunction and stop using the fact that you have two kids as an excuse to make a fuckwit of yourself.

Sorry for dragging the thread down further Bruce but it’s the internet and all that. Also word on the street is that Fang doesn’t even know you banned him from your blog. Ha ha - the joke is on him. I will make sure to pass it on next time you have one of your lively discussions about life and or finding yourself fascinating.

Now let me get back to listening to Russian history via Boney M.
Iain Hall (Tuesday 6 November 2007, 9:20 am) #

Everett,
Your Pomposity is undiminished I see, firstly in that you choose to answer on Bridget’s behalf and secondly that you do so in the following manner.

Err NO But the fact that Bridgit refuses to back her own statement of principle from not so long ago says heaps about how “morally flexible” you leftists so often are.

Just because she refuses to explicitly back her statement at your demand, doesn’t mean that she doesn’t back it. Your allegation is a “proof from a negative” - a logical fallacy.

The fact of the matter is that I do not demand that Bridgit answer my query at all but I do draw a reasonable inference from her failure to do so.

To simplify things, and sadly you obviously need this simplified, it is safe to say Bridgit condemns murder. There are many murders a day world wide, are you expecting Bridget to explicitly condemn them on a daily basis? What you expect from her is just like saying that she is flexible when it comes to murder because she condemns some and won’t explicitly do so with others.

But your example does not fit well with the matter at hand, I quoted a statement of principle enunciated by Greado not that long ago and simply asked if her position has changed between when she made that statement and now. I was not asking her to make any opinion of any other particular act by any other person.

I’d reasonably expect a primary school child to understand this logic and not jump to the erroneous type of allegation you make, so don’t expect people to be so charitable when your trite allegations are based on flawed reasoning like this.

Everett, I make no allegations, you imagine that I do when I ask a simple question about Bridget’s moral constituency, a question that she refuses to answer.

In any case, you have demanded Bridgit condemn Krypto and you are entitled to demand precisely nothing of her, or anyone else here (other than Krypto/Fang/etc who have actually, not imaginarily, wronged you - you can demand they stop.)

I made no “demands” of her at all I merely quote her own lofty claim of moral principle , that I happen to agree with and ask her if that is still her position.

The situation that gives rise to all this nastiness directed at you is entirely generated by yourself. If you hadn’t stalked Jeremy, tried inciting flame wars yourself and so on, none of this would be happening because your actual antagonists feed off of this crap. It’s your dung pile Iain, you don’t get to ask anyone else to help you clean it up.

You know what, I bet that if you asked Jeremy he would be as keen as I am to dredge up the events of late 2005. As far as I am concerned those events are done and dusted. I put “troll tales and true” together to show just how keen all of you lot are to harass me about those events. For some one who claims to be “above ” such things you have been very keen to make the running in contributing to them haven’t you?

The only reason that I don’t un-ban the likes of Fang at my blog is because their war with you is likely to disrupt discussion, I don’t do it to protect you Iain, not anymore. I just don’t like your flies.

Really? That is a laugh, you never “protected me” you had the conceit that you were doing so by referring to me by a rather derisory nickname, but that was more to cover your own arse than anything else. Your “complaint” to the coppers came to nothing, because it was nothing , your claims about the MTL incident are by your own admissions entirely spurious because you can’t establish the age or even the existence of that “person ” can you?

And on that note, if you aren’t going to stop sooking about Krypto to people who have no business saving your skin, in the process disrupting a thread that isn’t supposed to be focused on you, could you please take your circus of egocentricity somewhere else? I’m sure AWH would be far more sympathetic.

Oh but I’m not “sooking” about scrotes Like Krypto at all but he was the first commenter here with a comment clearly referencing Moi, followed by one from Greado that likewise attempts to draw me into playing here. So perhaps you should be admonishing them for “disrupting a thread” far more than you do to me.

People here want to have discussions with other sensible people about amusing or sensible things. Not waste time being side-tracked by a malicious, self-centered e-gatecrasher who never made it past Erikson’s adolescent phase.

ROTFL !!!!

You started this comment verging on pomposity and you close exceeding any measure of the pompous!!!

If people wanted to have “sensible discussions” about ANY topic this blog is the last place that they would find it. The stock in trade here is the snide, bitchy or smart arse put down, of anyone that stands against the leftist orthodoxy. Please point to any post here that is at all serious on any topic. You will be very hard pressed to find one.
John Surname (Tuesday 6 November 2007, 12:36 pm) #

“Please point to any post here that is at all serious on any topic. You will be very hard pressed to find one.”

This one, before you fucked it up you idiot.
Bridgit Gread (Tuesday 6 November 2007, 1:52 pm) #

We could start a birthday thread here for Iain, only we don’t know what day it falls on. Or, for that matter, what year.
Bridgit Gread (Tuesday 6 November 2007, 1:59 pm) #

Latest comments at Idiot Central:

Iain: I am fully employed I just don’t recieve a wage for the work I do.
Mark L: Having spent 15 minutes trawling through your latest online creation, I can’t say I’m surprised.
Elijah: You have too much time on your hands Iain.

Bingo.
Bruce (Tuesday 6 November 2007, 2:03 pm) #

The fact of the matter is that I do not demand that Bridgit answer my query at all but I do draw a reasonable inference from her failure to do so.

No honest person will accept that you weren’t making a demand, Iain, you were. And nobody is going to accept that you didn’t allege moral inconsistency, you did.

We can’t all perform, nor do we all have the motivation for the self-deluding mental gymnastics you undertake, Iain. If the contradictions brought about by us not revising recent conversation to your liking causes you angst, I suggest that again you go hang out with your friends at AWH.

As for a reasonable inference. What part of reason do you not understand Iain? A notion can’t be reasonable if based on a logical fallacy such as proof from a negative. Reason doesn’t encompass fallacious arguments.

Get the to a primary school (and enrol).

You know what, I bet that if you asked Jeremy he would be as keen as I am to dredge up the events of late 2005.

Blah. Blah. Blah. I know your dissembling on this piece of history already Iain, there is no need to dredge anything up. You stalked him. End of story.

There is no debate on the history Iain, only the illusion of debate (which apparently fools only you) because you lack the strength of character to concede the truth, move on and grow as a human being.

So perhaps you should be admonishing them for “disrupting a thread” far more than you do to me.

I don’t admonish on demand especially not to you Iain, Bridgit has apologised and Krypto knows where I stand. In any case, you have been far more disruptive, could have had your sooky fit elsewhere and most importantly, neither Krypto nor Bridgit made you comment here. You did that yourself of your own free will and now you pass the buck to others.

So much for your championing of the idea that people have to take ownership over what they write on the Internet. Such moral flexibility Iain.

It’s not that hard to maintain this principle Iain. I for my part acknowledge that my contributions in response to you are becoming disruptive, so this is the last one I’ll make on this thread, telling you off (without leave from others).

Let’s face facts Iain, you never found ownership of what you write important otherwise you never would have written under the name of “niceperson”. “Owning what you write” was only ever just a contrived justification for your sick Jeremy Sear fetish.

You started this comment verging on pomposity and you close exceeding any measure of the pompous!!!

Talking down to average John Smith is pompous. Talking down to you isn’t. You are beneath respect Iain, so there is nothing uppity or pompous about not talking to you as a respected peer.

Talking down to persons of your malignant character is about as pompous as pissing in a gutter. Which admittedly may seem pompous to someone who makes that gutter his home.

Please point to any post here that is at all serious on any topic. You will be very hard pressed to find one.

Poor Iain. There have been serious issues covered, such as Family First’s deception about being a religious party. That’s damn serious.

I seriously wish you’d either say Happy B-day to Mrs Ed, or just go where you are wanted. I’m being sarcastic to amuse myself though.

You would have noticed that I also had an “or” as in “or” amusement. If you are going to throw what I say back at me Iain, it’d be sensible that you didn’t lie about what I say. Aside from the fact that it demonstrates your deficient character (for the umpteenth time), it’s obvious that you are doing it, especially to the person you mis-quote.

Andrew Bolt and Tim Blair may get away with it in the national press, but on the blogosphere people have far much greater proximity to the original statement. I suggest you stop copying your heros and get some new tactics (that preferably don’t involve stalking people, or side-tracking discussions to tiresome and histrionic tracts about about “Moi! Moi! Moi!”.)

You aren’t going to get closure by running your paranoid allegations against people here, Iain, nor your melodramatic playing of the victim. All you will get is ridicule.

Which until you grow up and take ownership over your behaviour, is all you deserve from us.

* Telling off ends, levity resumes *
Bruce (Tuesday 6 November 2007, 2:08 pm) #

Okay, this is pretty disruptive, unless of course I’m missing what the discussion should be by default.

Latest comments at Idiot Central

Is baiting Iain some kind of birthday party game? Pin the tail to the ass?

Have I missed something?
Iain Hall (Tuesday 6 November 2007, 5:54 pm) #

The fact of the matter is that I do not demand that Bridgit answer my query at all but I do draw a reasonable inference from her failure to do so.

No honest person will accept that you weren’t making a demand, Iain, you were. And nobody is going to accept that you didn’t allege moral inconsistency, you did.

Well for some one so prone to hide behind pedantry I would have thought that you would have been keen to attack me on what I actually said. There is no explicit allegation at all There is a general comment about the moral flexibility of you lefties but that hardly qualifies as a specific allegation now does it? That you infer one exists suggests to me that your “defence” of Greado’s moral ambiguity here does give you some concern, even though you are determined to attack me for the inference you draw from my question none the less.

We can’t all perform, nor do we all have the motivation for the self-deluding mental gymnastics you undertake, Iain. If the contradictions brought about by us not revising recent conversation to your liking causes you angst, I suggest that again you go hang out with your friends at AWH.

WTF does this mean? You lot here just love to bad mouth me at every opportunity and at any venue you can find If any one here is suffering from moral angst I suggest that it is your self and Greado.

As for a reasonable inference. What part of reason do you not understand Iain? A notion can’t be reasonable if based on a logical fallacy such as proof from a negative. Reason doesn’t encompass fallacious arguments.

Semantics won’t save you Everett, Not on this occasion I asked a very simple question of Greado, ”do you now resile from your earlier statement of moral principle?*”what is so hard about answering that if you still hold to that principle?
Not much I guess, but if you have abandoned that principle, as Greado seems to have done, then it is a bit harder because you then have to explain why that principle is no longer worthy of support.
I bet she can’t do it and not look foolish.

Get the to a primary school (and enrol).

Unlike you Everett, I have actually completed my formal schooling; I managed to do so before I was your age even though I had an long hiatus from schooling.

You know what, I bet that if you asked Jeremy he would be as keen as I am to dredge up the events of late 2005.

Blah. Blah. Blah. I know your dissembling on this piece of history already Iain, there is no need to dredge anything up. You stalked him. End of story.

The truth of your oft repeated allegation is not the issue here My point still stands Jeremy has said that he want’s to put it behind him so why should I be any different?

I’ll give you a couple of brownie points for finally conceding that you can’t back up the most important details of the MTL incident (about the existence or “age” of that “person”) but that story, which you have for so long dined out on, is indicative of your whole line vis a vis my stoush with Jeremy.
Your problem is that you think that what you understand the truth to be is definitively what happened. Sadly you are wrong.

So perhaps you should be admonishing them for “disrupting a thread” far more than you do to me.

I don’t admonish on demand especially not to you Iain, Bridgit has apologised and Krypto knows where I stand. In any case, you have been far more disruptive, could have had your sooky fit elsewhere and most importantly, neither Krypto nor Bridgit made you comment here. You did that yourself of your own free will and now you pass the buck to others.

So much for your championing of the idea that people have to take ownership over what they write on the Internet. Such moral flexibility Iain.

I have several times made the point that if lot don’t want to be” bitten” by me that the way to achieve that is to leave me alone. You have been very much in evidence poking me at every opportunity so you have no reason to complain when you are mauled in return now do you?

So much for your championing of the idea that people have to take ownership over what they write on the Internet. Such moral flexibility Iain. There is no debate on the history Iain, only the illusion of debate (which apparently fools only you) because you lack the strength of character to concede the truth, move on and grow as a human being.

But who among us is it that wants to drag up the past? Who is it that can’t move on? The evidence of “Troll tales and true” is that it is all of you lot and that your harassment far exceeds anything that I ever did during my stoush with Jeremy. I have offered a quid pro quo along the lines of the one I have with Mikey but you would not take it would you?

It’s not that hard to maintain this principle Iain. I for my part acknowledge that my contributions in response to you are becoming disruptive, so this is the last one I’ll make on this thread, telling you off (without leave from others).

What conceit you have Everett, how could anything that I have said on this thread be even vaguely disruptive? It has continued as it began, more attacking me than it ever was about wishing someone good cheer on their birthday.

Let’s face facts Iain, you never found ownership of what you write important otherwise you never would have written under the name of “niceperson”. “Owning what you write” was only ever just a contrived justification for your sick Jeremy Sear fetish.

This is your opinion and sadly for you it is entirely wrong. I was a total newbie when it came to internet commentary when I posted that first commented at boltwatch and I just followed the lead of other commentators by writing under a nom de plume. Issues pertaining to anonymity did not surface until later. Do you know how long I used that Nom de plume? All of about ten weeks.

You started this comment verging on pomposity and you close exceeding any measure of the pompous!!!

Talking down to average John Smith is pompous. Talking down to you isn’t. You are beneath respect Iain, so there is nothing uppity or pompous about not talking to you as a respected peer.

Talking down to persons of your malignant character is about as pompous as pissing in a gutter. Which admittedly may seem pompous to someone who makes that gutter his home.

ROTFL !!!!

I just love the way that you answer a charge of pomposity with a mixture of arrogance and hubris, that has to be my laugh of the week.

Please point to any post here that is at all serious on any topic. You will be very hard pressed to find one.

Poor Iain. There have been serious issues covered, such as Family First’s deception about being a religious party. That’s damn serious.

I seriously wish you’d either say Happy B-day to Mrs Ed, or just go where you are wanted. I’m being sarcastic to amuse myself though.

Nah that was not a “serious” post it was just another piece of Christian bashing.

You would have noticed that I also had an “or” as in “or” amusement. If you are going to throw what I say back at me Iain, it’d be sensible that you didn’t lie about what I say. Aside from the fact that it demonstrates your deficient character (for the umpteenth time), it’s obvious that you are doing it, especially to the person you mis-quote.

It is not misquoting you to ignore some tine part of your verbose whole. But the fact of the matter is that I do find some of the pieces here mildly amusing so perhaps you should read my omission as that rather than as a “deficiency in my Character”

Andrew Bolt and Tim Blair may get away with it in the national press, but on the blogosphere people have far much greater proximity to the original statement. I suggest you stop copying your heros(sic) and get some new tactics (that preferably don’t involve stalking people, or side-tracking discussions to tiresome and histrionic tracts about about(sic) “Moi! Moi! Moi!”.)

WTF ( for the third time, sigh) I put Troll tales and true together and I have done bugger all to promote it apart from a very small avatar on my side bar You have made more of a fuss about it that I have. The day I opened it up to public scrutiny no less now, does that not prove you are obsessed with me, or what?

You aren’t going to get closure by running your paranoid allegations against people here, Iain, nor your melodramatic playing of the victim. All you will get is ridicule.

Which until you grow up and take ownership over your behaviour, is all you deserve from us.

But as I have pointed out Everett I make no “paranoid allegations” in fact I make no “allegations” at all that is all in your fetid imagination along with your claims that anyone would bother to “stalk” you.

* paraphrase
The Happy Revolutionary (Tuesday 6 November 2007, 6:16 pm) #

But who among us is it that wants to drag up the past? Who is it that can’t move on? The evidence of “Troll tales and true” is that it is all of you lot and that your harassment far exceeds anything that I ever did during my stoush with Jeremy. I have offered a quid pro quo along the lines of the one I have with Mikey but you would not take it would you?

If this is the case, Hall, then why do I read you on AWH, offering a reward if one of your charming friends can ‘out’ me? It sounds stalkerish to me…
Bruce (Tuesday 6 November 2007, 6:39 pm) #

Bottle of scotch wasn’t it? A good bottle of scotch would be better used as a birthday present.

A bad bottle used as a cleaning agent.
Bridgit Gread (Tuesday 6 November 2007, 6:51 pm) #

Hall hasn’t ‘moved on’, he’s only become a little more subtle and guarded about his extra-curricular activities. It was only a few months ago that he was gleefully commenting on Jeremy Sear’s marital woes and the sexual proclivities of Miss P. He’s like a pig who stumbles across a mudpatch and can’t resist rolling in it.
Jimmy Scullin (Tuesday 6 November 2007, 8:26 pm) #

I think everyone is being very pernicious on this thread and it should stop.
Bruce (Tuesday 6 November 2007, 10:22 pm) #

I think everyone is being very pernicious on this thread and it should stop.

As non-plused as people are this week with the election campaign, I reckon it would be a good topic to get people back on track.
Jimmy Scullin (Tuesday 6 November 2007, 10:32 pm) #

It’s cup week in Melbourne Bruce, the election has taken a back seat. The potential interest rate rise only got about 20 secs on the news as opposed to the rest of being taken up by people being interviewed wearing stupid clothes and giving stupid answers to news reporters who asked stupid questions. Hold on, it was the election campaign.
Bruce (Wednesday 7 November 2007, 1:06 am) #

I noticed over at Mikey’s, the Cup and the campaign were conflated. Pity the backfire on Howard was purely rhetorical. There’s plenty of policy to discuss after all.

Then there was Steve Fielding’s effort, which while uber-corny, at least didn’t stray too far from the business of Government.