grodscorp@grods.comInnuendo coincidental?
 | Posted by Scott on Monday 31 March 2008, 11:49 am Categories: Media Tags: DanielJohns, gay, innuendo, PaulMac, Silverchair, TheAge |
The Age — as is its wont as a trashy, celebrity-driven rag — is today featuring a story about Silverchair’s Daniel Johns and “those” gay rumours.
Musician Paul Mac has revealed the distress caused by false rumours about Daniel Johns’s sexuality, after the singer’s break-up from Natalie Imbruglia.
Mac, who was incorrectly linked to Johns in magazine reports, said the entire episode was very upsetting for Johns, who was already devastated by his marriage break-up.
So do you reckon that The Age juxtaposing a photo of Paul Mac with a pic of Johns sucking a lollipop is completely coincidental?
News you can use
Of course it’s not.
Monday 31 March 2008, 11:55 am #Ant Rogenous
Strawberry: the most obscene Chupa Chup of them all.
Monday 31 March 2008, 12:06 pm #Ant Rogenous
Oh, and to the sub-editor who came up with the pissweak “Mac attacks…”: a pox on you!
Monday 31 March 2008, 12:11 pm #John Surname
He’s a flaming queer, alright?
Monday 31 March 2008, 12:21 pm #Ant Rogenous
Don’t get me wrong, John — I hate Jon Daniels so much that I refuse to put his forename and surname in the right order. But a bad headline is a bad headline.
Monday 31 March 2008, 12:30 pm #John Surname
I think that a bad headline is a good headline, in a round-about sort of way.
Monday 31 March 2008, 12:36 pm #Dam Buster of Preston
I am sure in the magazine articles “sources close to Paul Mac” or “industry insiders” would be spilling all the beans.
I hope Rove keeps on going with his piss-take of the magazines on the tv ad’s for his show.
Monday 31 March 2008, 12:40 pm #Bridgit Gread
‘Imbruglia imbroligio over in-your-end innuendo’?
Monday 31 March 2008, 12:43 pm #Chuck A. Spear
I hate Paul Mac’s hair more than hate Jeff Daniel’s brother. Also, Young Man, Old Man was they gayest film clip ever.
I will always remember his chuck of gold by the midget Larry Emdur:
The Dissociatives is the only band name you get half way through and want to stop and buy a vowel.
Monday 31 March 2008, 12:43 pm #Ant Rogenous
You’re hired, Bridgit. I’ll tell that chair-moistener at The Age to clear his desk.
Monday 31 March 2008, 12:56 pm #Bridgit Gread
Ant, the Herald Sun’s approach features far more brevity:
IS JOHNS A FAG?
Monday 31 March 2008, 1:02 pm #Ant Rogenous
Close, Bridgit, but they would’ve squeezed the word EVIL in there somewhere.
Monday 31 March 2008, 1:13 pm #Terry Wright
What’s with the hate for Johns?
The Dissociatives CD was magnificent.
Also C’MON … Silverchair. What’s wrong with them?
Am I missing something? …and don’t say my taste in music because it’s probably true.
Monday 31 March 2008, 1:18 pm #Ant Rogenous
I’m just a hateful leftist, Terry — you ought to know that!
Seriously, though: “No more maybes, your baby’s got rabies…”
I do not like green eggs and ham. I do not like them, Sam-I-am.
Screw you, Daniels. And the donkey you rode in on.
Monday 31 March 2008, 1:33 pm #Terry Wright
Where does that leave the Beatles?
Yellow matter custard
Dripping from a dead dog’s eye
Crab a locker fishwife
Pornographic priestess
-I am the walrus
I haven’t really analysed their lyrics. Early Silverchair was quite worthy for 15/16 year olds but some lyrics were a bit cheesy. They certainly became an international act and The Dissociatives release was amazing. I loved that CD.
GO West were alSTOPMonday 31 March 2008, 1:40 pm #Ant Rogenous
Terry, I don’t want to jump to any conclusions here, but DID YOU JUST COMPARE JON DANIELS TO JOHN LENNON??????/???/?
Monday 31 March 2008, 1:42 pm #The Editor
Gauntlet. Thrown.
Monday 31 March 2008, 1:50 pm #keri
Both the Beatles and Silverchair were/are shit.
Case closed.
Monday 31 March 2008, 2:07 pm #Ant Rogenous
Beatles! Shit!?
Next GrodsThink cage fight: Ant Rogenous vs Keri.
Monday 31 March 2008, 2:51 pm #keri
Bring it on, Ant.
There’s no way I can lose, I have taste on my side!
Monday 31 March 2008, 2:52 pm #EC
Keri sacré bleu!!
Monday 31 March 2008, 3:05 pm #Terry Wright
Sorry Keri but I’m with Ant on this. (even though his record collection consists mainly of The Beatles, Pavlov’s Dog, Fleetwood Mac and Pink Floyd) :• )
You seriously cannot ever call The Beatles shit.
C’MON. Ant TROLL TROLL! Ban her.
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Ant I agree - No comparison. But if you’re even 10% of Lennon (not Lenin for those RWDBs) you’re HOT!
And I said I would NEVER get into a music debate again.
Monday 31 March 2008, 3:09 pm #Ant Rogenous
Jon Daniels isn’t even 10 per cent of the faintest skidmark on a pair of John Lennon’s smalls!
Monday 31 March 2008, 3:14 pm #keri
Why can’t I call them shit? Exactly what makes them good? They were mediocre in a time when there was fuck all else around that was even close to their shite standards.
The sooner all the middle-aged Beatles fans die and leave me in peace unassaulted by “Love me Do” the better.
Monday 31 March 2008, 3:23 pm #Terry Wright
My ears are bleeding STOP STOP!
Moderator!!! Hello moderator???
Keri what about Abbey Road or The White Album… C’MON.
Ant, Fleetwood Mac split up along time ago… and no Rocky Horror Show either please.
Do you really hate Silverchair/Johns that much? Don’t you see it as the last of the pub rock era … Chisel/Oils/
Kids in the Kitchenetc. Before alternative became mainstream.Monday 31 March 2008, 3:26 pm #Andrea Harris, Administrator
Sorry, Terry. Too broke and depressed to moderate.
Monday 31 March 2008, 3:27 pm #keri
Terry, the best of a bad band is still bad.
And lest you think I am trolling, this is actually my opinion, but Cold Chisel makes baby Jebus cry, and Midnight Oil are not much better.
Bloody Cold Chisel. Flame Trees? Just…. no. Every single time Khe Sahn comes on, I cringe and make for the nearest exit.
Monday 31 March 2008, 3:32 pm #Ant Rogenous
I’m no great fan of Cold Chisel, but Flame Trees is a beautiful song. You’ve got taste up your lemon-and-sarse, Keri!
Monday 31 March 2008, 3:35 pm #Chuck A. Spear
They were mediocre in a time when there was fuck all else around that was even close to their shite standards.
Umm. How about The Monkeys?
And if it wasn’t for the fucken Beatles we wouldn’t have had:
1. Oasis
2. Jet
3. Yoko Ono and her plastic Ono fleshlight
4. Panic at the Disco
5. Heather Mills
6. “Love” the musical
7. Smelly stinking hippies
8. Paul McCartney & Wings
9. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
10. Sean Lennon
And Sharon Tate would still be alive.
The only good songs that came from that band were: Savoy Truffle, Everybody’s Got Something to Hide Except Me and My Monkey and Dear Prudence.
Oh and BTW, fuck Silverchair too. I won’t even start on those cunts.
Monday 31 March 2008, 3:38 pm #keri
Ant, Flame Trees is a “beautiful” song if you’ve had 18 VB cans, are wearing something in the Flannel family, jeans that are either saggy in the arse or washed in acid, and think a cocktail is adding coke to your red wine.
Monday 31 March 2008, 3:40 pm #Ant Rogenous
Sweet, merciful Jesus.
Monday 31 March 2008, 3:58 pm #Bridgit Gread
And if it wasn’t for the fucken Beatles we wouldn’t have had:
Add to that list:
11. Ravi Shankar
12. Norah Jones
13. Any kids Norah Jones might have who play music
Keri is right about Cold Chisel to some extent - they have become a flannelette cliche and a provider of bogan anthems - but if you strip that away and listen to their music for what it is, then it’s fine. Same with Midnight Oil, though they’re a bit more transparent.
Monday 31 March 2008, 4:03 pm #Ant Rogenous
Thank you, Bridgit. I worked in an outer-suburban bloodbath pub for years, and no one’s ears bleed faster than mine when I hear Khe Sahn. But you do have to be able to separate a band’s fans from its music if you’re going to give a fair assessment.
Monday 31 March 2008, 4:11 pm #Bridgit Gread
Yep. I like a lot of Chili Peppers’ stuff but that doesn’t mean I have to wear a tea cosy on my head and shorts down to my shins to appreciate it.
Monday 31 March 2008, 4:15 pm #Chuck A. Spear
Norah Jones = Snorah Jones. It says a lot when she is on high rotation at Starbucks.
14. Beatles anniversaries
15. OB LA DI OB LA DA
16. Because they invented everything including time
17. Religious epiphanies to Yogis
18. Stupid fucking love songs
19. John Lennon Quotes such as:
I don’t believe in Beatles. I just believe in me. Yoko and Me. That’s Reality.
Is it? Therefore they didn’t exist and this whole exercise is redundant.
Monday 31 March 2008, 4:18 pm #Adam
I listened to Sgt Peppers once, I thought it was boring as shit. Silverchair’s Diorama, on the other hand, is a rock masterpiece, Frogstomp kicks a lot of arse as does the Dissociatives album. The other 3 Silverchair albums all have their moments, with “Freak” being quite possibly the awesomest song ever written. Ergo, Daniel Johns > the Beatles > terrorist Ant Rogenous and his treasonous Johns views that threaten to break apart the motherland.
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Monday 31 March 2008, 4:18 pm #Ant Rogenous
I don’t believe in Beatles. I just believe in me. Yoko and Me. That’s Reality.
That’s not a quote, it’s a lyric from the song God.
Monday 31 March 2008, 4:23 pm #Zombie Mao
obviously Johns just experiments.
It’s a suck it and see approach
Monday 31 March 2008, 4:25 pm #Chuck A. Spear
Ok, I used some artistic license to make Lennon out as more of a nutter than he was. But he probably said it in conversation and Yoko would have told him to put it in a song.
It should read:
I don’t believe in Beatles/I just believe in me/Yoko and Me/That’s Reality.
Monday 31 March 2008, 4:30 pm #Chuck A. Spear
I guess the point I’m trying to make is that Lennon didn’t even like The Beatles.
Monday 31 March 2008, 4:33 pm #Zombie Mao
and Keith Richards still does not know he is in the Rolling Stones
Monday 31 March 2008, 7:00 pm #Chuck A. Spear
And coming in at #20 is Glenn A. Baker. Would someone tell him to get a new hat and shut the fuck up about the Beatles. It’s over Glenn.
And while I’m at it, enough of the Countdown specials /anniversaries/spectacular tours/replaying for the umpteenth time of Long Way to the Top and talking about how good Sherbet were. News Flash: They sucked.
Monday 31 March 2008, 7:11 pm #Ant Rogenous
Daryl Braithwaite only reached his full potential with the incredibly moving The Horses. The first time I heard him sing “way up in the sky, little darling”, I thought my heart would break.
Fuck, I can’t even type that with a straight face.
Monday 31 March 2008, 7:15 pm #Chuck A. Spear
My heart broke when Australian musicians (Sherbet, Daryl Cotton etc) got together and had a fundraiser for Daryl Braithwaite to help him pay his tax bill. It broke again when he performed in the musical Chess.
Monday 31 March 2008, 7:23 pm #Ant Rogenous
Darryl Cotton! Why oh why didn’t Marty Monster maul that bastard while he had the chance?
Monday 31 March 2008, 7:28 pm #Chuck A. Spear
Because Marty was busy getting mauled by the kangaroo.
Monday 31 March 2008, 7:41 pm #Ant Rogenous
God bless that surly marsupial. One of Australian TV’s finest moments right there.
Monday 31 March 2008, 7:48 pm #Chuck A. Spear
A golden moment Ant. Way better than Long Way to the Top. For anyone reading this thread, here is Rags the kangaroo beating the shit out of Marty Monster.
*Note Daryl Cotton’s stone wash denim.
Monday 31 March 2008, 7:52 pm #Bridgit Gread
Daryl Braithwaite only reached his full potential with the incredibly moving The Horses. The first time I heard him sing “way up in the sky, little darling”, I thought my heart would break.
And I think mine broke after I read you lavish praise on Daryl fricken Braithwaite. And that Horses song - I’m sorry, it’s the music they play in the elevator to Hell.
Who else is in your CD collection, Ant? John Farnham?
Monday 31 March 2008, 7:53 pm #flagg
silverchair, the beatles: they both kick ass. silverchair’s later stuff rocks like a bastard, especially diorama. agreed, though, that daniel johns is a tool.
Monday 31 March 2008, 8:00 pm #Ant Rogenous
Bridgit, you must have missed this at the end of my comment about Braithwaite:
Fuck, I can’t even type that with a straight face.
Give me some more bloody credit than that!
Monday 31 March 2008, 8:21 pm #Chuck A. Spear
It’s fitting that this thread starts off discussing Daniel Johns and ends up discussing Daryl Braithwaite. Poignant even.
Monday 31 March 2008, 8:28 pm #Bridgit Gread
My apologies Ant, it’s been a busy night and my sarcasm meter was malfunctioning.
Monday 31 March 2008, 9:08 pm #Mikey
I think the lolly is more representative of a clitoris.
Which begs the question. What the hell happened to Imbruglia’s clitoris?!
Monday 31 March 2008, 10:29 pm #Wah
Thuis is one of the funniest threads I’ve read for ages. Being a Johhny-come-lately I’ll make a couple of quick observations:
Terry, you started all this Beatles shit - shame on you.
Ant, War is Over is a beautiful Cold Chisel song
Spear, your comment about Glenn A Baker’s hat was the most sensible - the fez wearing fat cunt.
Monday 31 March 2008, 10:32 pm #Adam
Well no one else seems to think so but I reckon Daniel Johns is a mad cunt, not a chance he’ll do a Braithwaite!!
Monday 31 March 2008, 10:39 pm #Ant Rogenous
I’ve always wanted to ask Glenn Arse Baker whether he’s Turkish, just so when he says no I can say: THEN SHOVE THAT FUCKING FEZ UP YOUR FRECKLE YOU PRETENTIOUS PRICK.
Monday 31 March 2008, 10:43 pm #John Surname
He’s a Mormon. http://www.abc.net.au/talkingheads/txt/s1723034.htm
Monday 31 March 2008, 10:56 pm #Bridgit Gread
What the hell happened to Imbruglia’s clitoris?!
All the big questions are asked here on Grods.
Monday 31 March 2008, 11:45 pm #Chuck A. Spear
Holy fuck Wah. The fez hat is “part of (Baker’s) persona” and he is described as a “cultural photographer”. Get fucked.
The A in his name stands for “a hell of a guy.” Get fucked again.
After you shove his fez cap up his arse Ant I want to give him a swift kick up it.
Monday 31 March 2008, 11:47 pm #Ray Dixon
The sooner all the middle-aged Beatles fans die and leave me in peace unassaulted by “Love me Do” the better.
Keri, from every comment you’ve made here it’s obvious you wouldn’t know good music if you fell over it. Beatles, Midnight Oil, Cold Chisel … are all brilliant. Silverchair, oh my god, you have got to be joking. Tell me, why does Daniel “no talent” Johns wear that headband? Is it to keep his brains in? No, he doesn’t have any. I think it’s to hide the lobotomy scars.
Honestly, you must have been born too late to appreciate what happened in the 60s. Bands like Silverchair are mere poor imitations of the golden era.
Tuesday 1 April 2008, 12:47 am #Bridgit Gread
I like Silverchair; I think at their peak they were a very good group. But that’s where it starts and finishes. Maybe they’d have ascended into legend if Daniel Johns had taken the Cobain option and chewed a little gun-metal, but that’s speculative.
Tuesday 1 April 2008, 2:47 am #THR
Lurve, lurve me do. ‘Cos you know…
Tuesday 1 April 2008, 8:01 am #keri
Ray, if you’d read my comments, you’ll note I also called Silverchair shit. And being 25, maybe I AM to young to appreciate what went on before. But that doesn’t stop me from thinking that if Beatles music was erased from the planet, I certainly wouldn’t be mourning. And I’ve yet to see a half decent band cited as someone The Beatles influenced.
And maybe because I wasn’t born here and grew up elsewhere I can’t appreciate Chisel, but I once accidentaly ended up at a Jimmy Barnes concert, and it’s the lowlight of my life, let me tell you. A worse concert, filled with a worse crowd I have yet to see, and I’ve seen Maroon 5 at an all ages gig at Festival Hall.
I stand by my convictions - I still think The Beatles are shit.
Tuesday 1 April 2008, 8:39 am #Bridgit Gread
And maybe because I wasn’t born here and grew up elsewhere…
Ah that’s it, you’re a damn foreigner. I bet you hate VB and didn’t understand The Castle…
Tuesday 1 April 2008, 8:42 am #keri
Can’t stand VB, Bridgit, and I have never even seen the Castle.
Tuesday 1 April 2008, 8:44 am #John Surname
Oasis.
Tuesday 1 April 2008, 8:47 am #Terry Wright
Keri, I have been in music debates all my life and I promised myself I would stop a few ago. I got into a physical fight because I stood up for Michael Jackson (yep that’s right). I am one of those trivia nuts who will listen to anything just in case a trivia question that pops up for that artist.
Taste is subjective but some music is just beyond criticism … being The Beatles. When I was into punk, I hated anything else except punk. Then when I was into Aussie music I hated everything not local. This went on until I realised it was just labels. My favs now include all types from George Michael to Tomahawk to The Beastie Boys.
I do draw the line at Go West though.
Tuesday 1 April 2008, 10:10 am #Bridgit Gread
That’s something else about The Beatles - their ability to cross over into different genres; they really defied stereotype or categorisation. Their music had elements of folk, country, blues, Brit pop, psychedelia, early grunge (e.g. Helter Skelter, which sent Charlie Manson troppo). Octopus’ Garden is essentially a kids’ song and Yesterday is like something you’d hear in a musical. There’s probably no other group in history with that dynamism and range.
Tuesday 1 April 2008, 10:11 am #Bridgit Gread
There’s probably no other group in history with that dynamism and range
Actually I take that back - there might be someone on the horizon…
Tuesday 1 April 2008, 10:43 am #Ant Rogenous
I can already sing Pernicious Minds by memory, Bridgit.
Tuesday 1 April 2008, 11:18 am #Terry Wright
Oh Bridget, Helter Skelter…
Intense song. I like Ringo at the end shouting “I’ve got blisters on my fingers”.
Apparently it was more of a jam session with Paul on guitar and John on bass. It went on for hours but was cut back for the record. When Ringo yelled that out, he meant it.
Tuesday 1 April 2008, 11:29 am #Bron
Hey, Terry, I knew the Beatles dabbled in all sorts of drugs, but I didn’t know they were heroin addicts at one time or other. Do you have a link or anything? I find this interesting.
Tuesday 1 April 2008, 11:30 am #Ant Rogenous
My understanding was that Paul never got into it — I’d read he’d had a couple of snorts and decided it wasn’t for him.
Tuesday 1 April 2008, 11:31 am #Bron
BTW, The Ed, the times for the comments being posted aren’t right. An hour too early!!
Or is this just another leftist conspiracy to induce people into confusion over what is “right” and real?
Yeah, that must be it.
And I’m talking out of my arse. Time for lunch.
Tuesday 1 April 2008, 11:32 am #Bron
On first name basis with Paul, are you, Ant?
Tuesday 1 April 2008, 11:34 am #Ant Rogenous
The pleasure is all his.
Tuesday 1 April 2008, 2:09 pm #Terry Wright
Bron.
I read the book “The Love You Make” by Peter Brown about 20 years ago. He was some business manager and a good friend of John Lennon. He mentions constantly how they all got into every drug conceivable. PM certainly wasn’t an angel and recently admitted he ‘tried’ heroin but preferred coke. He has also been arrested for marijuana possession. The book points out heaps of drug use including heroin. All of The Beatles have been publicly accused for heroin use/dependance at some time but Paul denies it. (recently he has admitted to it.). John attacked Paul often for lying about The Beatles including his use of drugs. Ringo & Barbara Bach went to detox for drug & alcohol abuse, George Harrison, Eric Clapton, Patti Boyd, Mick Jagger, Marianne Faithful were famous for their heroin, LSD, marijuana parties in the 1970s. John & Yoko’s addiction is fairly common knowledge and much written about.
Although they first used marijuana with Dylan, they were big drinkers and in the early days in Germany they were always on speed pills.
The drug references are famous - Hey Jude, Happiness is a Warm Gun, I Want You (She’s So Heavy), Lucy In The Sky, A song like ‘Got to Get You Into My Life, Day Tripper, Fixing a Hole, Penny Lane etc etc.
I loved the book but die hard Beatles fans don’t seem to like the warts and all approach of Peter Brown. Sorry I don’t have a link but it should be all there on the web. Avoid the glossed over interviews and over protective fans and you will find what you want. You could always buy the book which I highly recommend.
Tuesday 1 April 2008, 4:55 pm #Mikey
Remember when Daniel Johns stage dived, the crowd parted, he got stunned, and someone stole his pants?
Great stuff.