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 | Posted by Scott on Thursday 1 May 2008, 12:57 pm Categories: Corporate stupidity, Music Tags: AnthonyCallea, LindsayMcDougall, MusicIndustry, MusicPiracy |
Frenzal Rhomb guitarist Lindsay McDougall has been shafted by the Australian music industry association, who told him it was recording his interview for one reason and then used it for another. Here’s McDougall on the industry’s lame attempt to shame kids into not downloading music by suggesting that they’re ripping off artists rather than actually cutting into the bloated profits of the record companies who rip off artists.
I think it’s bullshit, I think it’s record companies crying poor and I don’t agree with it… you don’t make money from the record, the record companies make the money from the record. If they can’t make money these days because they haven’t come onside with the way the world is going, it’s their own problem.
Pwned.
And here’s “artist” and “musician” Anthony Callea’s manager throwing his support behind the campaign to stop something that will never, ever have any impact on Callea’s sale(s).
This video is a unique view on the changing nature of our industry. It’s tremendous to see artists given the opportunity to provide a balanced first hand account of the music business as they see it.
Thursday 1 May 2008, 1:06 pm #Bron
My heart fucking bleeds for the record companies.
Thursday 1 May 2008, 1:46 pm #Jeremy
I suppose if I didn’t want you to steal this post before I got to a computer myself, I shouldn’t have smsed you about it.
Bugger.
Thursday 1 May 2008, 1:52 pm #THR
Speaking of Frenzal Rhomb, some comrades and I, seized by youthful exuberance (and more than a little alcohol) once expropriated their drinks rider.
But it’s good to see that this fellow has refused to be co-opted, and that his story is getting a bit of air-time.
Thursday 1 May 2008, 1:56 pm #Bruce
Reminds me of the Kyle and Jackie-O fiasco a few years back. Even if you don’t like FR’s music, you have to admire their character.
Thursday 1 May 2008, 1:57 pm #The Editor
You did what, Jeremy?
* checks mobile phone which is on silent in filing cabinet so kids don’t steal it *
Oh, yes you did.
Thursday 1 May 2008, 2:37 pm #Jeremy
A likely story.
Thursday 1 May 2008, 2:40 pm #Jeremy
Seriously, a likely story and I feel foolish for having suggested anything to the contrary.
Thursday 1 May 2008, 2:40 pm #Jeremy
To be honest, it’s not really a “story” so much as a “credible explanation”, and I’m a bit of a dick for continuing to refer to it in the former manner.
Thursday 1 May 2008, 2:45 pm #The Editor
Keep digging, Jeremy.
Thursday 1 May 2008, 4:32 pm #keri
Execs might have to downgrade from the Lotus to a plain ‘ole Beemer.
What will they substitute for their tiny cocks now?
Thursday 1 May 2008, 4:42 pm #Darryl Mason
As I’ve said elsewhere, nearly every band and artist now trying to raise awareness about how torrent sharing and music piracy steals their money will use torrent sharing sites to release free music within the next 3-5 years. By then if you are not prepared to give away three or four songs or a whole album as a promotional tool, you will have no music career.
And Jimmy Barnes doesn’t need to worry about his music being ’stolen’. No matter how many times his children or his fans post his albums to The Pirate Bay, they never get much interest, while obscure black metal bands from Norway often jump into the Top 100 torrents.
Lindsay McDougall should sue for this outrageous misrepresentation. Musicians need to support their fans, and future concert ticket buyers, by not letting the music industry and overseas ‘copyright defenders’ go to war on them. And they should certainly not allow themselves to be so woefully compromised as to appear in, or endorse, music industry propaganda.
Thursday 1 May 2008, 5:50 pm #krypto
THIS is why I’m a proud shoplifter.
Thursday 1 May 2008, 7:34 pm #Bruce
Musicians need to support their fans, and future concert ticket buyers, by not letting the music industry and overseas ‘copyright defenders’ go to war on them.
Advice Mulletica (sorry, they had mullets when I was a kid) should have taken. If it weren’t for tape traders in the 80s, their career wouldn’t even exist.
Thursday 1 May 2008, 8:44 pm #philip travers
Easy on the cock thing,Keri! After all how many of those drive cars,and could listen intently to music in the car!?And whilst I am a baby-boomer,and associated generalities,I also have a problem,that if I fancy myself,I am not in Elephant Trunksville singing ” They have me cornered in my rear-view, they have me cornered on the street,they have me cornered with sunglasses with everyone I meet,they have me cornered,as I sing my Blues,and, they know those cornered ways,are always ,trying to fight off the typecast, for,I am not raising my flag ,even half mast”.Apologies to all concerned ,playing the sentence,is difficult,in this state of mind.
Thursday 1 May 2008, 11:25 pm #Darryl Mason
Bruce, Metallica will soon announce that their new album will be released online for free, with limited edition multi-disc packs available for hardcore fans to buy. A month or two after the free release, the CD will be in record stores and Metallica (like Radiohead and Nine Inch Nails) will be ecstatic at how freeconomics has substantially expanded their fan base, while thousands of online commenters and bloggers hyped the new album for free.
Trent Reznor from Nine Inch Nails has grossed more than $5 million off the free online release of Ghosts I-IV (instrumental albums) and sales of Ghosts CD packs and limited editions. While giving the records away to anyone in the world who wanted to download them, Reznor grossed more than $750,000 from limited edition CD packs in one day. No ads, no marketing, no interviews, no months or even weeks of build up and hype. The fans did virtually all the promotion, and acted as unpaid spruikers for the CD packs Reznor was selling at his site.
The music industry can deny it all they want, but this will all be industry standard stuff within a couple of years. The musicians hawking this corporate fear and guilt campaign should know better, and they should know all this stuff already. They should, in fact, be planning their own free releases, and working out how they can make money off it at the same time.
Excuse the length, but I have deranted myself now, thank you.
Friday 2 May 2008, 1:17 pm #keri
“Easy on the cock thing,Keri!”
Sorry Phil, I never go easy on a cock.