Comments on: Compare and contrast http://www.grods.com/post/2424/ Australia's leading blog that starts with 'G' and has nine letters in its name. Join us for a latte as we discuss politics, media, society and the internet. Sat, 01 Aug 2009 00:15:58 +1000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: keri http://www.grods.com/post/2424/comment-page-1/#comment-17920 keri Fri, 02 May 2008 03:17:49 +0000 http://www.grods.com/post/2424/#comment-17920 "Easy on the cock thing,Keri!" Sorry Phil, I never go easy on a cock. “Easy on the cock thing,Keri!”

Sorry Phil, I never go easy on a cock.

]]> By: Darryl Mason http://www.grods.com/post/2424/comment-page-1/#comment-17878 Darryl Mason Thu, 01 May 2008 13:25:05 +0000 http://www.grods.com/post/2424/#comment-17878 Bruce, Metallica will soon announce that their new album will be released online for free, with limited edition multi-disc packs available for hardcore fans to buy. A month or two after the free release, the CD will be in record stores and Metallica (like Radiohead and Nine Inch Nails) will be ecstatic at how freeconomics has substantially expanded their fan base, while thousands of online commenters and bloggers hyped the new album for free. Trent Reznor from Nine Inch Nails has grossed more than $5 million off the free online release of Ghosts I-IV (instrumental albums) and sales of Ghosts CD packs and limited editions. While giving the records away to anyone in the world who wanted to download them, Reznor grossed more than $750,000 from limited edition CD packs in one day. No ads, no marketing, no interviews, no months or even weeks of build up and hype. The fans did virtually all the promotion, and acted as unpaid spruikers for the CD packs Reznor was selling at his site. The music industry can deny it all they want, but this will all be industry standard stuff within a couple of years. The musicians hawking this corporate fear and guilt campaign should know better, and they should know all this stuff already. They should, in fact, be planning their own free releases, and working out how they can make money off it at the same time. Excuse the length, but I have deranted myself now, thank you. Bruce, Metallica will soon announce that their new album will be released online for free, with limited edition multi-disc packs available for hardcore fans to buy. A month or two after the free release, the CD will be in record stores and Metallica (like Radiohead and Nine Inch Nails) will be ecstatic at how freeconomics has substantially expanded their fan base, while thousands of online commenters and bloggers hyped the new album for free.

Trent Reznor from Nine Inch Nails has grossed more than $5 million off the free online release of Ghosts I-IV (instrumental albums) and sales of Ghosts CD packs and limited editions. While giving the records away to anyone in the world who wanted to download them, Reznor grossed more than $750,000 from limited edition CD packs in one day. No ads, no marketing, no interviews, no months or even weeks of build up and hype. The fans did virtually all the promotion, and acted as unpaid spruikers for the CD packs Reznor was selling at his site.

The music industry can deny it all they want, but this will all be industry standard stuff within a couple of years. The musicians hawking this corporate fear and guilt campaign should know better, and they should know all this stuff already. They should, in fact, be planning their own free releases, and working out how they can make money off it at the same time.

Excuse the length, but I have deranted myself now, thank you.

]]> By: philip travers http://www.grods.com/post/2424/comment-page-1/#comment-17838 philip travers Thu, 01 May 2008 10:44:48 +0000 http://www.grods.com/post/2424/#comment-17838 Easy on the cock thing,Keri! After all how many of those drive cars,and could listen intently to music in the car!?And whilst I am a baby-boomer,and associated generalities,I also have a problem,that if I fancy myself,I am not in Elephant Trunksville singing " They have me cornered in my rear-view, they have me cornered on the street,they have me cornered with sunglasses with everyone I meet,they have me cornered,as I sing my Blues,and, they know those cornered ways,are always ,trying to fight off the typecast, for,I am not raising my flag ,even half mast".Apologies to all concerned ,playing the sentence,is difficult,in this state of mind. Easy on the cock thing,Keri! After all how many of those drive cars,and could listen intently to music in the car!?And whilst I am a baby-boomer,and associated generalities,I also have a problem,that if I fancy myself,I am not in Elephant Trunksville singing ” They have me cornered in my rear-view, they have me cornered on the street,they have me cornered with sunglasses with everyone I meet,they have me cornered,as I sing my Blues,and, they know those cornered ways,are always ,trying to fight off the typecast, for,I am not raising my flag ,even half mast”.Apologies to all concerned ,playing the sentence,is difficult,in this state of mind.

]]> By: Bruce http://www.grods.com/post/2424/comment-page-1/#comment-17831 Bruce Thu, 01 May 2008 09:34:51 +0000 http://www.grods.com/post/2424/#comment-17831 <i>Musicians need to support their fans, and future concert ticket buyers, by not letting the music industry and overseas ‘copyright defenders’ go to war on them.</i> Advice Mulletica (sorry, they had mullets when I was a kid) should have taken. If it weren't for tape traders in the 80s, their career wouldn't even exist. Musicians need to support their fans, and future concert ticket buyers, by not letting the music industry and overseas ‘copyright defenders’ go to war on them.

Advice Mulletica (sorry, they had mullets when I was a kid) should have taken. If it weren’t for tape traders in the 80s, their career wouldn’t even exist.

]]> By: krypto http://www.grods.com/post/2424/comment-page-1/#comment-17823 krypto Thu, 01 May 2008 07:50:08 +0000 http://www.grods.com/post/2424/#comment-17823 THIS is why I'm a proud shoplifter. THIS is why I’m a proud shoplifter.

]]> By: Darryl Mason http://www.grods.com/post/2424/comment-page-1/#comment-17821 Darryl Mason Thu, 01 May 2008 06:42:46 +0000 http://www.grods.com/post/2424/#comment-17821 As I've said elsewhere, nearly every band and artist now trying to raise awareness about how torrent sharing and music piracy steals their money will use torrent sharing sites to release free music within the next 3-5 years. By then if you are not prepared to give away three or four songs or a whole album as a promotional tool, you will have no music career. And Jimmy Barnes doesn't need to worry about his music being 'stolen'. No matter how many times his children or his fans post his albums to The Pirate Bay, they never get much interest, while obscure black metal bands from Norway often jump into the Top 100 torrents. Lindsay McDougall should sue for this outrageous misrepresentation. Musicians need to support their fans, and future concert ticket buyers, by not letting the music industry and overseas 'copyright defenders' go to war on them. And they should certainly not allow themselves to be so woefully compromised as to appear in, or endorse, music industry propaganda. As I’ve said elsewhere, nearly every band and artist now trying to raise awareness about how torrent sharing and music piracy steals their money will use torrent sharing sites to release free music within the next 3-5 years. By then if you are not prepared to give away three or four songs or a whole album as a promotional tool, you will have no music career.

And Jimmy Barnes doesn’t need to worry about his music being ’stolen’. No matter how many times his children or his fans post his albums to The Pirate Bay, they never get much interest, while obscure black metal bands from Norway often jump into the Top 100 torrents.

Lindsay McDougall should sue for this outrageous misrepresentation. Musicians need to support their fans, and future concert ticket buyers, by not letting the music industry and overseas ‘copyright defenders’ go to war on them. And they should certainly not allow themselves to be so woefully compromised as to appear in, or endorse, music industry propaganda.

]]> By: keri http://www.grods.com/post/2424/comment-page-1/#comment-17820 keri Thu, 01 May 2008 06:32:54 +0000 http://www.grods.com/post/2424/#comment-17820 Execs might have to downgrade from the Lotus to a plain 'ole Beemer. What will they substitute for their tiny cocks now? Execs might have to downgrade from the Lotus to a plain ‘ole Beemer.

What will they substitute for their tiny cocks now?

]]> By: The Editor http://www.grods.com/post/2424/comment-page-1/#comment-17804 The Editor Thu, 01 May 2008 04:45:49 +0000 http://www.grods.com/post/2424/#comment-17804 Keep digging, Jeremy. Keep digging, Jeremy.

]]> By: Jeremy http://www.grods.com/post/2424/comment-page-1/#comment-17802 Jeremy Thu, 01 May 2008 04:40:53 +0000 http://www.grods.com/post/2424/#comment-17802 To be honest, it's not really a "story" so much as a "credible explanation", and I'm a bit of a dick for continuing to refer to it in the former manner. To be honest, it’s not really a “story” so much as a “credible explanation”, and I’m a bit of a dick for continuing to refer to it in the former manner.

]]> By: Jeremy http://www.grods.com/post/2424/comment-page-1/#comment-17801 Jeremy Thu, 01 May 2008 04:40:13 +0000 http://www.grods.com/post/2424/#comment-17801 Seriously, a likely story and I feel foolish for having suggested anything to the contrary. Seriously, a likely story and I feel foolish for having suggested anything to the contrary.

]]> By: Jeremy http://www.grods.com/post/2424/comment-page-1/#comment-17800 Jeremy Thu, 01 May 2008 04:37:33 +0000 http://www.grods.com/post/2424/#comment-17800 A likely story. A likely story.

]]> By: The Editor http://www.grods.com/post/2424/comment-page-1/#comment-17798 The Editor Thu, 01 May 2008 03:57:43 +0000 http://www.grods.com/post/2424/#comment-17798 You did what, Jeremy? <i>* checks mobile phone which is on silent in filing cabinet so kids don't steal it *</i> Oh, yes you did. You did what, Jeremy?

* checks mobile phone which is on silent in filing cabinet so kids don’t steal it *

Oh, yes you did.

]]> By: Bruce http://www.grods.com/post/2424/comment-page-1/#comment-17797 Bruce Thu, 01 May 2008 03:56:00 +0000 http://www.grods.com/post/2424/#comment-17797 Reminds me of the Kyle and Jackie-O fiasco a few years back. Even if you don't like FR's music, you have to admire their character. Reminds me of the Kyle and Jackie-O fiasco a few years back. Even if you don’t like FR’s music, you have to admire their character.

]]> By: THR http://www.grods.com/post/2424/comment-page-1/#comment-17796 THR Thu, 01 May 2008 03:52:26 +0000 http://www.grods.com/post/2424/#comment-17796 Speaking of Frenzal Rhomb, some comrades and I, seized by youthful exuberance (and more than a little alcohol) once expropriated their drinks rider. But it's good to see that this fellow has refused to be co-opted, and that his story is getting a bit of air-time. Speaking of Frenzal Rhomb, some comrades and I, seized by youthful exuberance (and more than a little alcohol) once expropriated their drinks rider.

But it’s good to see that this fellow has refused to be co-opted, and that his story is getting a bit of air-time.

]]> By: Jeremy http://www.grods.com/post/2424/comment-page-1/#comment-17795 Jeremy Thu, 01 May 2008 03:46:09 +0000 http://www.grods.com/post/2424/#comment-17795 I suppose if I didn't want you to steal this post before I got to a computer myself, I shouldn't have smsed you about it. Bugger. I suppose if I didn’t want you to steal this post before I got to a computer myself, I shouldn’t have smsed you about it.

Bugger.

]]> By: Bron http://www.grods.com/post/2424/comment-page-1/#comment-17789 Bron Thu, 01 May 2008 03:06:53 +0000 http://www.grods.com/post/2424/#comment-17789 My heart fucking bleeds for the record companies. My heart fucking bleeds for the record companies.

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