Victorian teachers win 

 Monday 5 May 2008, 11:13 am    The Editor
 Categories: Education, Politics   Tags: , , ,

Details are still sketchy but news is spreading around the teacher gossip network like bird flu. It seems that teachers — who have been locked in negotiations with a government that didn’t really want to negotiate for 18 months — have successfully told education minister Bronwyn Pike to stick her sub-inflation offer of 3.5% per year and instead grant Victorian teachers (the worst paid in the country) pay parity with their NSW colleagues. With virtually no productivity trade-offs teachers have been offered payrises of between $5000 and $10,000 with a John Howard-style $1000 once off bribe payment thrown in for good measure. Again, I’m not sure of the exact details but will update this post when they are officially released.

UPDATE: From ABC Online

The Premier John Brumby says the salary of a graduate teacher will rise by about $5,000 and senior teachers will get a $10,000 pay rise.

“We’ll make the classroom teachers the highest paid anywhere in Australia,” he said.

Mr Brumby, says they gave the teachers more than the original offer of 3.25 per cent because the union has agreed to boost productivity by spending more time with students.

“They will get an extra 10 minutes of tuition everyday.”

The Education Union’s Mary Bluett says top teachers will get a 15 per cent pay rise and graduate teachers 9.5 per cent over three years.

“The salary will actually reflect the importance of the job of teaching,” she said.

“That would do a lot to retain the teachers that we have here in the state.”

Under the deal, three of the four pupil-free days will be moved to before the start of the school year and teachers will get a one-off $1,000 cash bonus.

UPDATE II: Check out the ABC’s apostrophe problems.

I blame teachers.

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  1.  Gravatar Wah (Monday 5 May 2008, 11:35 am) # 

    http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/teachers-big-pay-win/2008/05/05/1209839508834.html

    Include his Social Justice package and Brumby might win a few fans. Now to fix the trains.


  2.  Gravatar Wah (Monday 5 May 2008, 11:36 am) # 

    Oh yeah, drinks on you Ed when you get your pay rise,


  3.  Gravatar Chuck A. Spear (Monday 5 May 2008, 11:43 am) # 

    About bloody time.


  4.  Gravatar The Editor (Monday 5 May 2008, 12:00 pm) # 

    That $1000 is going straight through the pokies, Wah.


  5.  Gravatar Chuck A. Spear (Monday 5 May 2008, 12:07 pm) # 

    Speaking of the $1000, I’m starting a ground-floor-up business opportunity and I’m looking for cashed-up, young professionals like yourself, Ed.

    How are you doing for washing-up liquid?


  6.  Gravatar cosmicjester (Monday 5 May 2008, 12:21 pm) # 

    great, more money for the pinkos to shove marxist and chairman mao ideologies down our kids throats

    i prefered it when good education consisted of a flagpole (labor members banned from ceremonies of course) the national song every morning and teaching muslims about simpson and his donkey


  7.  Gravatar krypto (Monday 5 May 2008, 1:33 pm) # 

    congratulations moneybags, now all the Albury teachers will be pissing off to Wodonga I guess.


  8.  Gravatar Jack Dorf (Monday 5 May 2008, 1:51 pm) # 

    news is spreading around the teacher gossip network like bird flu.

    Wouldn’t herpes be a better metaphor?


  9.  Gravatar Wah (Monday 5 May 2008, 1:57 pm) # 

    I’m not sure if there’s meant to be an apostrophe. If anything there shouldn’t be an S.


  10.  Gravatar The Editor (Monday 5 May 2008, 2:11 pm) # 

    I say teachers’.

    But what would I know? I’m just a teacher.


  11.  Gravatar Bron (Monday 5 May 2008, 2:15 pm) # 

    I say teachers’ too.

    But what would I know? I’m not a teacher.


  12.  Gravatar The Editor (Monday 5 May 2008, 2:16 pm) # 

    Tick, very good, Bron. Ten out of ten. Elephant stamp.


  13.  Gravatar JR (Monday 5 May 2008, 2:45 pm) # 

    “But what would I know? I’m just a teacher.”

    Shouldn’t that be, “But what would I know? I’m just a overpaid teacher.”?


  14.  Gravatar Wah (Monday 5 May 2008, 2:45 pm) # 

    Vic teacher-pay dispute resolved


  15.  Gravatar keri (Monday 5 May 2008, 2:53 pm) # 

    JR, it would actually be “But what would I know? I’m just AN overpaid teacher”


  16.  Gravatar albi (Monday 5 May 2008, 3:17 pm) # 

    Great, more of my taxes being used to reward the fucking traitors who indoctrinate children with maoistenvironfemopinkopoofoislamification.


  17.  Gravatar Bron (Monday 5 May 2008, 3:33 pm) # 

    Stop showing off your knowledge of big words, Albi.


  18.  Gravatar Wah (Monday 5 May 2008, 3:38 pm) # 

    Is it true the teachers got the pay rise because I bunch of humanities teachers threatened to take their shirts off in front of Flinders Street Station?


  19.  Gravatar The Editor (Monday 5 May 2008, 4:01 pm) # 

    He he. My kids actually made the same joke this morning, Wah.


  20.  Gravatar Returned Man (Monday 5 May 2008, 4:17 pm) # 

    There’s no need for an apostrophe.


  21.  Gravatar Bridgit Gread (Monday 5 May 2008, 4:42 pm) # 

    It’s great news. Finally the Victorian government can attract good quality professionals into teaching and cast lose some of the dead wood that’s been clogging up for the system for a while.

    *Looks up*


  22.  Gravatar The Editor (Monday 5 May 2008, 4:45 pm) # 

    What, my kids?


  23.  Gravatar Bridgit Gread (Monday 5 May 2008, 4:49 pm) # 

    “They will get an extra 10 minutes of tuition everyday.”

    It’s money for old rope, Ed, just come to class ten minutes later.


  24.  Gravatar Jeremy (Monday 5 May 2008, 7:10 pm) # 

    I’m surprised we haven’t been subjected to an animated gif of fireworks.


  25.  Gravatar The Editor (Monday 5 May 2008, 7:25 pm) # 

    “There’s no need for an apostrophe.”

    Welcome back, Returned Man, but I beg to differ. The pay dispute belongs to the Vic teachers and therefore a possessive apostrophe is required. Since “teachers” is a plural the apostrophe goes after the ’s’.


  26.  Gravatar magic bellybutton (Monday 5 May 2008, 7:39 pm) # 

    Now you’re just showing off.

    Fucking teachers.


  27.  Gravatar Jeremy (Monday 5 May 2008, 8:11 pm) # 

    But Editor, it’s also just a description. ie the pay dispute that involves Victorian teachers. In the same way as you’d say “ALP conference dispute” instead of “ALP conference’s dispute”. Just because it uses a plural “s” doesn’t mean it has to suddenly be a possessive “s” as well.


  28.  Gravatar Bridgit Gread (Monday 5 May 2008, 8:36 pm) # 

    Returned Man and Jeremy are actually correct, making The Editor redundant as a teacher and therefore unworthy of a pay rise. So ‘gnerr’.


  29.  Gravatar Chuck A. Spear (Monday 5 May 2008, 8:48 pm) # 

    Why the fuck is everyone trying to rain on Ed’s parade? No wonder it’s taken years for teachers to get a decent pay rise when they are surrounded by a bunch of curmudgeons.


  30.  Gravatar Bridgit Gread (Monday 5 May 2008, 9:01 pm) # 

    Only because we know he won’t share the wealth. A generous Grods CEO would shout the bar with Scotch, Fleshlights and finger food.


  31.  Gravatar The Editor (Monday 5 May 2008, 9:38 pm) # 

    There are two possible interpretations and depending on which one you embrace I’m either right or wrong.

    And you’re entitled to your interpretation but mine is right.


  32.  Gravatar Wah (Monday 5 May 2008, 9:52 pm) # 

    Just in case you fuckin’ missed it - needs a hyhen, not an apostrophy

    Vic teacher-pay dispute resolved


  33.  Gravatar Wah (Monday 5 May 2008, 9:52 pm) # 

    hyhen is like a hyphen, exactly like a hyphen


  34.  Gravatar Jeremy (Monday 5 May 2008, 10:52 pm) # 

    If both versions are equally correct, why’d you MS-paint critique the original?


  35.  Gravatar Bron (Monday 5 May 2008, 11:36 pm) # 

    Because he’s RIGHT, Jeremy. He said so himself.


  36.  Gravatar The Editor (Tuesday 6 May 2008, 7:41 am) # 

    Wah, I think it could use a hyphen but, like the apostrophe, it’s not the only way to write the headline.

    Jesus, Jeremy, can’t you spot a backdown when you see one?


  37.  Gravatar Steve (Tuesday 6 May 2008, 9:44 am) # 

    Strange that a comment thread about the best teachers’ pay deal in recent history should devolve into quibbling about hyphens and apostrophes.

    Actually perhaps it’s not strange.


  38.  Gravatar The Editor (Tuesday 6 May 2008, 9:45 am) # 

    Yeah, we all need to get out a bit more.

    FLESHLIGHT!


  39.  Gravatar John Surname (Tuesday 6 May 2008, 5:03 pm) # 

    Ed has already marked out his first purchase.


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