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		<title>By: The Editor</title>
		<link>http://www.grods.com/post/2611/comment-page-1/#comment-20552</link>
		<dc:creator>The Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 08:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P. W. N. E. D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P. W. N. E. D.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Roark</title>
		<link>http://www.grods.com/post/2611/comment-page-1/#comment-20550</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Roark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 08:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Leon has a point, John.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Leon has a point, John.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon Bertrand QC</title>
		<link>http://www.grods.com/post/2611/comment-page-1/#comment-20546</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon Bertrand QC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 08:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually, John, you have commented on my blog many times.

So I take you you have admitted you have no integrity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually, John, you have commented on my blog many times.</p>
<p>So I take you you have admitted you have no integrity?</p>
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		<title>By: Mikey</title>
		<link>http://www.grods.com/post/2611/comment-page-1/#comment-20474</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Leon any relation to Plastic Bertrand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Leon any relation to Plastic Bertrand?</p>
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		<title>By: John Surname</title>
		<link>http://www.grods.com/post/2611/comment-page-1/#comment-20470</link>
		<dc:creator>John Surname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please, Landeryou is only pretending to read them. Why would Landeryou read them when they mimic him in the first place?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, Landeryou is only pretending to read them. Why would Landeryou read them when they mimic him in the first place?</p>
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		<title>By: Krypto</title>
		<link>http://www.grods.com/post/2611/comment-page-1/#comment-20469</link>
		<dc:creator>Krypto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh that&#039;s not quite true John, Andy Slandy is probably reading.

More to the point no-one of integrity is reading Leon&#039;s &quot;articles&quot; (unless they&#039;re trolling for something hillariously stupid to blog about).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh that&#8217;s not quite true John, Andy Slandy is probably reading.</p>
<p>More to the point no-one of integrity is reading Leon&#8217;s &#8220;articles&#8221; (unless they&#8217;re trolling for something hillariously stupid to blog about).</p>
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		<title>By: John Surname</title>
		<link>http://www.grods.com/post/2611/comment-page-1/#comment-20468</link>
		<dc:creator>John Surname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t troll here to raise the hits for your pathetic blog, Leon. No-one is reading your &quot;articles&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t troll here to raise the hits for your pathetic blog, Leon. No-one is reading your &#8220;articles&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Krypto</title>
		<link>http://www.grods.com/post/2611/comment-page-1/#comment-20467</link>
		<dc:creator>Krypto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there&#039;s a bloody Arab in every tent isn&#039;t there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there&#8217;s a bloody Arab in every tent isn&#8217;t there.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon Bertrand</title>
		<link>http://www.grods.com/post/2611/comment-page-1/#comment-20466</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon Bertrand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both sides are as bad as each other. Accountability and transparency is much easier to talk about than to  practice, as Labor seems to be discovering at the moment: 

http://leonbertrand.blogspot.com/2008/05/bligh-governments-40-secrets.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both sides are as bad as each other. Accountability and transparency is much easier to talk about than to  practice, as Labor seems to be discovering at the moment: </p>
<p><a href="http://leonbertrand.blogspot.com/2008/05/bligh-governments-40-secrets.html" rel="nofollow">http://leonbertrand.blogspot.com/2008/05/bligh-governments-40-secrets.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: joe2</title>
		<link>http://www.grods.com/post/2611/comment-page-1/#comment-20465</link>
		<dc:creator>joe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it fair to stack up lots of legislation and challenge the opposition to block it before the senate changeover.

And, particularly, if Nelson is proposing to hold up what are considered the &quot;budgetry essentials&quot;, why not call him on it, while he still has some power to decide?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it fair to stack up lots of legislation and challenge the opposition to block it before the senate changeover.</p>
<p>And, particularly, if Nelson is proposing to hold up what are considered the &#8220;budgetry essentials&#8221;, why not call him on it, while he still has some power to decide?</p>
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		<title>By: Mikey</title>
		<link>http://www.grods.com/post/2611/comment-page-1/#comment-20461</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 08:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely right. They should.

However enfeebled Libs take note. Pay back is a bitch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely right. They should.</p>
<p>However enfeebled Libs take note. Pay back is a bitch.</p>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
		<link>http://www.grods.com/post/2611/comment-page-1/#comment-20456</link>
		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 07:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fisting Nudies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fisting Nudies?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.grods.com/post/2611/comment-page-1/#comment-20455</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fundies Fist, perhaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fundies Fist, perhaps.</p>
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		<title>By: Chade</title>
		<link>http://www.grods.com/post/2611/comment-page-1/#comment-20454</link>
		<dc:creator>Chade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you mean Fundies First or Nudies First, Editor...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you mean Fundies First or Nudies First, Editor&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: The Editor</title>
		<link>http://www.grods.com/post/2611/comment-page-1/#comment-20446</link>
		<dc:creator>The Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 03:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because they can still block it with the assistance of Fudies First and/or Xenephon (or even the Greens in some cases.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because they can still block it with the assistance of Fudies First and/or Xenephon (or even the Greens in some cases.)</p>
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		<title>By: Wah</title>
		<link>http://www.grods.com/post/2611/comment-page-1/#comment-20445</link>
		<dc:creator>Wah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 03:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I don&#039;t understand about the Libs is why they want to delay legislation when they only have the balance of power in the Senate for another month or so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I don&#8217;t understand about the Libs is why they want to delay legislation when they only have the balance of power in the Senate for another month or so.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.grods.com/post/2611/comment-page-1/#comment-20441</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 01:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Hear, hear!&lt;/i&gt;

Hear, hear! (Do I laugh or grumble? I didn&#039;t hear the speaker.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Hear, hear!</i></p>
<p>Hear, hear! (Do I laugh or grumble? I didn&#8217;t hear the speaker.)</p>
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		<title>By: Bron</title>
		<link>http://www.grods.com/post/2611/comment-page-1/#comment-20440</link>
		<dc:creator>Bron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 01:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, also, Wah -- but that&#039;s just politicking. There still needs to be some transparency and accountability and debate, regardless. No matter what Labor will do, the Libs will still find something to spin and nitpick on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, also, Wah &#8212; but that&#8217;s just politicking. There still needs to be some transparency and accountability and debate, regardless. No matter what Labor will do, the Libs will still find something to spin and nitpick on.</p>
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		<title>By: Wah</title>
		<link>http://www.grods.com/post/2611/comment-page-1/#comment-20437</link>
		<dc:creator>Wah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 01:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wayne Swan made a good point though, saying that if Labor didn&#039;t try to new polices through the Libs would accuse them of doing nothing and being spin over substance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne Swan made a good point though, saying that if Labor didn&#8217;t try to new polices through the Libs would accuse them of doing nothing and being spin over substance.</p>
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		<title>By: Bron</title>
		<link>http://www.grods.com/post/2611/comment-page-1/#comment-20431</link>
		<dc:creator>Bron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 00:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point well made, Ed. I agree wholeheartedly. It&#039;s making a mockery of the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point well made, Ed. I agree wholeheartedly. It&#8217;s making a mockery of the system.</p>
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		<title>By: magic bellybutton</title>
		<link>http://www.grods.com/post/2611/comment-page-1/#comment-20415</link>
		<dc:creator>magic bellybutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF is with the ALP at the moment?  They&#039;re all behaving like children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF is with the ALP at the moment?  They&#8217;re all behaving like children.</p>
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		<title>By: Jangari</title>
		<link>http://www.grods.com/post/2611/comment-page-1/#comment-20411</link>
		<dc:creator>Jangari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...the exact same thing with legislation covering areas such as industrial relations and asylum seekers.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Not to mention, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.matjjin-nehen.com/2007/08/07/500-pages-in-one-day/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Indigenous Affairs&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;the exact same thing with legislation covering areas such as industrial relations and asylum seekers.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not to mention, <a href="http://www.matjjin-nehen.com/2007/08/07/500-pages-in-one-day/" rel="nofollow">Indigenous Affairs</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
		<link>http://www.grods.com/post/2611/comment-page-1/#comment-20409</link>
		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear, hear!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear, hear!</p>
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